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[notthetup1]: depends lah
[notthetup1]: in italy it's more like 20ml
[notthetup1]: AFAIK Starbucks follows 30ml
[notthetup1]: it's not technically espresso strength
[notthetup1]: also espresso doesn't actually have much caffeine compared to say filter or aeropress or drip coffee
[Valentine]: or cold brew =P
[Valentine]: haven't had one of those in ages
[Valentine]: i like my own; not a fan of CSHH's... too sour
[notthetup1]: oh yea.. that day at CSHH I had half of their "Nitro Black" (carbonated cold brew)
[Valentine]: ooh sounds interesting
[notthetup1]: damn i was wired for the rest of the day..
[Valentine]: should making that at the gym someday
[Valentine]: randomly, gyms are also amazing as co-working spaces
[Alex]: As in, at the abstract level?
[Valentine]: free flow beverages, tables and chairs
[Alex]: or are you taking conf calls on the crosstrainer?
[Alex]: Ah :)
[notthetup1]: which gym has free flow beveranges?
[Valentine]: fitness first, at least
[notthetup1]: ahh the atas one lah
[notthetup1]: i was thinking of CC gyms :P
[Valentine]: california / true fitness / pure fitness probably do too
[notthetup1]: last time I went to cali they didn't have free drinks leh
[notthetup1]: only water
[Valentine]: oh issit
[Valentine]: fitness first has carbonated water which is bloody awesome
[notthetup1]: whoa!! damn!
[Valentine]: wish SG was more like europe in that sense
[Valentine]: could buy a 2l bottle for $0.40 SGD
[notthetup1]: i have been wanting to hack a soda stream for many days now
[notthetup1]: the dispenser is cheap, they make $$ of the cartridges...
[Valentine]: there's a DIY version
[notthetup1]: so there's a way to use the aquarium CO2 canister instead of the cartiridges
[Valentine]: ah I lost the link
[Valentine]: there was a company that sold plans and parts to make your own carbonation system
[notthetup1]: although I remember someone was saying Singapore's water is too hard to carbonate well
[ponyfleisch]: what's the best pizza delivery service in singapore?
[Valentine]: wait i get the name for you
[Valentine]: Domino's is fine for American style
[ponyfleisch]: Valentine: looks great.
[icedwater]: Heh, had to find an example of a squatted site earlier, couldn't find one offhand.
[icedwater]: Probably shouldn't have started looking with facebook; it seems they've bought facbook.com and facebok.com :P
[ponyfleisch]: motherfuckers, i think they don't deliver here
[ponyfleisch]: yep i know
[ponyfleisch]: i think i know almost all the pizza places that foodpanda lists for my area.
[ponyfleisch]: and most of them are not very good.
[ponyfleisch]: somebody go to bella pizza and grab me a pizza there, dammit :)
[Valentine]: just get domino's
[Valentine]: they're the lesser of evils compared to canadian
[Valentine]: actually even pizza hut is better than canadian now that they're more competitive
[ponyfleisch]: dominos website is fucking broken
[ponyfleisch]: that's frustration
[ponyfleisch]: okay that's just fucking horrible
[icedwater]: ponyfleisch: please enter your singpass to order a pizza from dominos
[ponyfleisch]: heh, i'll be getting that next week.
[ponyfleisch]: hm i filled out their online contact form. i wonder if they reply, i haven't exactly been nice. hahah.
[Valentine]: think their social media team was okay
[Valentine]: replied to me once and followed up iirc
[ponyfleisch]: ah looks like adblocker was the problem.
[ponyfleisch]: ordering spizza now.
[hendry]: ponyfleisch: dominos? do you have no taste?
[hendry]: ponyfleisch: spizza is better. sheesh
[ponyfleisch]: yeah just waiting for them to deliver now
[hendry]: or not bother
[hendry]: CurryPng: "404 Not Found"!?? is this your bot notthetup ?
[ponyfleisch]: is it okay to not tip the delivery guy if i paid by credit card?
[ponyfleisch]: hendry: bonus points if you get hackbraten :)
[ngourlay]: I've just been working out a decimal example for Hack and Tell of how multiplying is just like dividing. "Instead of dividing by thirteen, simply multiply by 77 and shift the decimal point."
[ngourlay]: Then realised that most people are more likely to know their 13 times tables than 77 times tables.
[ngourlay]: I should probably just stick to: "Some computers find multiplication easier than division."
[notthetup1]: hendry: eh?? I don't run no bots..
[notthetup1]: hendry: you might want to consider starting earlier and everyone heading to lavender after for makan
[Valentine]: hendry: CurryPng is my bot if you run a whois
[Valentine]: wonder what URL it's trying to pull
[ponyfleisch]: awesome, i modified fpdf.php so it outputs directly to the browser page-by-page instead of building the pdf in memory first.
[notthetup1]: don't all computers find multiplication easier than division?
[ponyfleisch]: not if it is division by 2 :)
[ponyfleisch]: or by 2^x
[Valentine]: top entry on HN
[notthetup1]: well given X, division by X is always >= multiplication in difficulty
[notthetup1]: s/"multiplication "/"multiplication by "
[notthetup1]: /me laughs at my hacked regex
[ponyfleisch]: hm, now i feel slightly stupid. i spent the day modifying fpdf to optimize for memory usage when generating large PDFs (tens of thousands of pages)
[ponyfleisch]: only to realize that i can generate a 3000 page document using roughly 50 mb of ram with the original one.
[ponyfleisch]: my version uses 8-9 mb. which is cool. but sort of unnecessary.
[ponyfleisch]: on the other hand, my version can start outputting after the first page, that is cool i guess.
[hendry]: ponyfleisch: producing PDF instead of HTML is sad ... you're killing trees!
[ponyfleisch]: hendry: i think that is what it is going to be used for.
[ponyfleisch]: hendry: pricelists for a business2business thing
[ponyfleisch]: a company selling electrical sockets and shit like that
[hendry]: ponyfleisch: backwards
[hendry]: i spent most of the day doing a censorship / blacklist tool for customers, so there :P
[ponyfleisch]: hendry: also i think pdf is probably easier to load and display partially, versus html pages where the whole DOM tree is in memory..
[ponyfleisch]: i guess they also have nice online access to the data
[ponyfleisch]: though i am not really responsible for that part
[ponyfleisch]: i'm just paid to speed up the generation of those price lists.
[ponyfleisch]: and i will achieve that by bypassing the stupid ORM or ORM-ish abstraction their weird system uses
[ponyfleisch]: hendry: and before you ask: yes, the data is in a database, not in flat files :)
[ponyfleisch]: interesting how well chrome deals with a 10 mb 3000 page pdf
[hendry]: ponyfleisch: install TF2
[hendry]: ponyfleisch: it's a quick 10GB download
[ponyfleisch]: :) i'm not a gamer
[ponyfleisch]: and since i spent the afternoon arguing about quines, i still have to work :)
[ponyfleisch]: i'm sort of proud of my early stage fpdf fork though. ha.
[icedwater]: LOL delicious irony
[icedwater]: IT Services email: sign up for this seminar on mobile security and privacy!
[icedwater]: *clicks link*
[icedwater]: > This link has been blocked for your security.
[icedwater]: Outlook Web Access is the epitome of Microsoft Productivity Tools.
[Alex]: I personally don't hate Microsoft Project, but I haven't used any of the more awesome web two dot oh versions
[icedwater]: I'm not sure about Microsoft Project.
[Alex]: I am probably a terrible person for liking it though
[Alex]: I just haven't used anything better. Maybe it's STockholm Syndrome
[icedwater]: In the meantime I'll continue thinking about how to access Outlook servers with mutt.
[icedwater]: Because OWA << CLI.
[Alex]: You used to be able to do that if you had an Exchange server with IMAP support, fwiw
[Alex]: Dunno now :)
[hyperair]: icedwater: imap not enabled?
[icedwater]: Oddly enough, there seem to be no IMAP settings on my end... will have to check with IT.
[hyperair]: i think wywen mentioned something similar
[hyperair-sb]: damn, netsplit
[Valentine]: if it's office 365 there'll be IMAP but not outlook.com
[hendry]: argh, scrollback is too frustrating. it seems uncapable of remembering a login for me on Chrome 35.0.1870.2. I have to click signin everytime.
[sb-pramin]: testing 123
[hendry]: sb-pramin: yay it works
[notthetup1]: wondering if we should invite them over for the meetup
[hyperair]: omg notthetup is back
[hyperair]: wl/wii notthetup
[hyperair]: the US server got netsplit from the rest
[notthetup1]: ah yes
[notthetup1]: i had to restart my znc
[hyperair]: when i disconnected from freenode and rejoined, i switched from the server we were on to this server.
[notthetup1]: i was being lazy in the morning
[hyperair]: i see
[hyperair]: i think rainbow is still in the other server.
[hyperair]: and a couple others
[Valentine]: notthetup: Chinmay host it!!!
[notthetup1]: Valentine: Yup
[notthetup1]: will ask them
[ngourlay]: didn't freenode used to be less rubbish?
[ngourlay]: /me looks back with rosy glasses
[ngourlay]: I'm sure 5 years ago it was less splitty
[Alex]: I don't think 5 years ago it was less splitty, no.
[Alex]: I think it's cyclical actually. And at the moment, it's a bit splittier. More attack traffic than usual AFAICR
[ngourlay]: probably right
[Alex]: Anyway, we should all switch to...
[Alex]: *shakes 8 ball*
[Alex]: XMPP over SIP!
[Alex]: *shakes 8 ball*
[Alex]: MSN over Twitter!
[ngourlay]: heh. I wonder whether facebook chat accepts bots.
[Alex]: well, it works over XMPP and I use it with bitlbee that way, so I guess so
[CurryPng]: [ 4ee89f7cf824a85ad5f11d52604ffdebe9f01302bcea8ddec0af450f9185ddf1 | Hacker News ] - news.ycombinator.com
[notthetup1]: gaqzi: Is that you moving your coinage around? :P
[Valentine]: lol just saw that too
[Valentine]: plenty of money
[Valentine]: 118mil in the comments, was it?
[Valentine]: anyone have free PaaS recommendations that allow you to use your own domains?
[Valentine]: checking out openshift now
[hyperair]: i've only ever used openshift. it's okay for simple usecases, but you start ripping your hair out when you start trying to go out of the line
[Cakes]: i forgot my freenode password
[hyperair]: /me lols
[hyperair]: i think there's a way to recover
[Cakes]: i can only ident by disconnecting/reconnecting now XD because i saved it
[Cakes]: hyperair: dinner? :D
[hyperair]: Cakes: yeah, where/when?
[Cakes]: bringing people...
[Cakes]: are you at the space?
[Cakes]: strange :D
[hyperair]: i'll be at 630 though =p
[Cakes]: well see you then =p
[Valentine]: urgh having a bit of a headache
[Valentine]: and it's too late for a nap
[Valentine]: lol nice shirt
[CurryPng]: [ I am Satoshi Nakamoto. | Teespring ] - teespring.com
[Valentine]: i just realised that it's probably possible to dump CurryPng onto openshift
[CurryPng]: [ Building social IRC Bots with Node.js Part 1 | OpenShift by Red Hat ] - www.openshift.com
[moose]: Big Bang Theory?
[Valentine]: hendry: I remember you mentioned something about wanting to have a regular TF2 session
[Valentine]: team fortress 2
[Valentine]: icedwater: at the space?
[hendry]: Valentine: yes, one proper competitive game a week? :)
[hendry]: got a 50USD voucher from DO since my Droplet refuses to connect to the internet
[Valentine]: I was thinking we set a day and book it on the calendar for every week
[Valentine]: also gives the greater community exposure to what we do
[Valentine]: so we're able to add people in without them having to find out some other way
[hendry]: Valentine: sounds fine... not Monday nights though :-)
[CurryPng]: [ AWS User Group Singapore 8th Meetup | Facebook ] - www.facebook.com
[notthetup1]: hendry: You're hosting the AWS meetup yea?? I'll add it in the calendar..
[Alex]: Where's a good price to buy energy saving bulbs? Just generic supermarkets, or is there somewhere cheaper? prevnext